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  1. What strikes me about the buying-leads section isn’t the strategy, it’s the honesty in admitting it’s rude to cold call someone who’s never heard of you and doesn’t want to be called. That’s a decent moment of self-awareness buried in an otherwise promotional post. I’d have liked to see that same honesty applied to the online section, where a hundred leads a day is presented as simply a system doing the work, with none of the same discomfort acknowledged.

    1. Hollis, that bit got me too, the “Voldemort” joke about warm market being the word you’re not supposed to say — funny because it’s true, everyone in this space is scared of the one method that’s actually free and works, and instead builds an entire online system to avoid ever having an awkward conversation with someone they know. I sell bikes for a living and half my regulars started as someone’s mate who got dragged in for advice. Turns out you can’t really automate someone liking and trusting you, no matter how good the capture page is.

      1. The bit about drop cards being “placed strategically” is doing a lot of work, Declan — I’d spend three weeks designing the perfect card and never place one anywhere.

      2. Drop cards, we had those in the eighties, dollar bills printed on the front, same idea, same modest results. Never the part that made the difference. The conversation after was.

  2. Small correction — the figure that only around 30% of purchased leads are current isn’t a general lead-buying statistic, that’s specific to genealogy-style resold lists, which the post is actually describing accurately. Worth separating from lead buying generally, some sources vet more carefully. That said, the underlying advice to avoid buying names you’ll have to warm up cold is sound regardless of the exact percentage.

    1. Priya’s right that the vetting varies by source, and I’ll say up front I worked field development for a large direct-sales company for eight years so take this with that in mind — from the company side, the genealogy lists exist because they’re cheap to generate, not because anyone believed they’d convert well. What I can’t tell you is how any specific vendor sources or verifies theirs, that was never visible to us either, and I think that opacity is the actual problem the post is gesturing at without quite naming it.

      1. Renata, this is very interesting to me because in my own market, distributing cosmetics from Izmir, the concept of “warm market” functions somewhat differently than what this post assumes for an American reader — family and community obligation carries much more weight here, so the discomfort Hollis is describing at the top of this thread is, for us, often reversed, it is more uncomfortable to not offer the opportunity to someone close to you. I wonder whether the drop cards and offline advertising sections translate more easily across borders than the online capture page section does, since trust online is built so differently depending on where a person is reading from.

    2. The follow-up sequence after capture is the part I’d automate first, wrote a simple tagging system years ago that routes a lead straight into a drip sequence the second they hit submit. Doesn’t fix Priya’s point about where the leads came from in the first place though, garbage in stays garbage no matter how good the automation after it is.

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